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Written on: 18. 07. 2015 [19:49]
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reetp
John Crisp
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Hi,
I have been asked by a good friend to assist in setting up some monitoring.
He is going to use a ABB REF615 via an Arctic LTE Lite C-1260 connecting to a Viola M2M gateway.
I was originally asked to help get the server installed and the router connected which I have done.
Beyond this my knowledge is limited !
I am now looking for a SCADA system to graph some statistics and create some reports and wanted to know whether OpenSCADA can interface to modbus data received on the ViolaM2M server ? This is not my sphere of expertise so please treat me as stupid :-)
I have had a read of the docs and know that I can install the system on a linux box easily enough. I am just not sure how to connect to the Viola gateway and to extract/receive information from it/the router.
Any help gratefully appreciated.
B. Rgds
John
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Written on: 20. 07. 2015 [16:39]
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roman
Roman Savochenko
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"reetp" wrote:
He is going to use a ABB REF615 via an Arctic LTE Lite C-1260 connecting to a Viola M2M gateway.
Viola M2M gateway seems full transparently Ethernet Gate then you can direct use ABB REF615 protocol IEC61850.
But IEC61850 for now is not implemented full into OpenSCADA, only it's base MMS (IEC-9506) protocol by the way works now with ABB AC 800M.
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Written on: 20. 07. 2015 [16:56]
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reetp
John Crisp
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"roman" wrote:
"reetp" wrote:
He is going to use a ABB REF615 via an Arctic LTE Lite C-1260 connecting to a Viola M2M gateway.
Viola M2M gateway seems full transparently Ethernet Gate then you can direct use ABB REF615 protocol IEC61850.
But IEC61850 for now is not implemented full into OpenSCADA, only it's base MMS (IEC-9506) protocol by the way works now with ABB AC 800M.
Many thanks for the quick response.
I believe they were looking at just simple monitoring using the Modbus protocol.
Would that work with OpenSCADA ?
B. Rgds
John
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Written on: 20. 07. 2015 [17:05]
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roman
Roman Savochenko
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"reetp" wrote:
"roman" wrote:
"reetp" wrote:
He is going to use a ABB REF615 via an Arctic LTE Lite C-1260 connecting to a Viola M2M gateway.
Viola M2M gateway seems full transparently Ethernet Gate then you can direct use ABB REF615 protocol IEC61850.
But IEC61850 for now is not implemented full into OpenSCADA, only it's base MMS (IEC-9506) protocol by the way works now with ABB AC 800M.
I believe they were looking at just simple monitoring using the Modbus protocol.
Would that work with OpenSCADA ?
Sure: http://wiki.oscada.org/HomePageEn/Doc/ModBus
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Written on: 20. 07. 2015 [17:53]
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reetp
John Crisp
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Cool - I did see that but as no expert I wanted to check !
Assuming OpenSCADA is on another machine in another place, I presume that you connect OpenSCADA to the Viola gateway say via VPN, and and OpenSCADA can then read the modbus data ?
One other issue that they have been looking at is store and forward caching of data on site. They need to monitor a site but cannot afford to loose data if the router goes down. I can't see any easy(ish) "store and forward" systems for modbus - I did wonder about something like say http://www.openmuc.org on a Raspberry Pi locally.
I noticed that OpenSCADA can run in server mode and I was wondering if it might be better to run say a OpenSCADA server at the location as a TP Server as here : http://wiki.oscada.org/HomePageEn/Doc/ProgrammManual#h929-1
Then query each server local server from the remote main OpenSCADA system ?
Appreciate your efforts in educating me :-)
B. Rgds
John
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Written on: 22. 07. 2015 [13:16]
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roman
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"reetp" wrote:
Assuming OpenSCADA is on another machine in another place, I presume that you connect OpenSCADA to the Viola gateway say via VPN, and and OpenSCADA can then read the modbus data ?
Sure if you mean ModBus/TCP, not Serial based ASCII, RTU variants.
"reetp" wrote:
One other issue that they have been looking at is store and forward caching of data on site. They need to monitor a site but cannot afford to loose data if the router goes down. I can't see any easy(ish) "store and forward" systems for modbus - I did wonder about something like say http://www.openmuc.org on a Raspberry Pi locally.
Then you need start OpenSCADA-server (PLC-variant) on the Raspberry Pi where gather data by ModBus, store that into local archive and next provide this to upper OpenSCADA-station by the self OpenSCADA protocol which allow you to prevent the data lost by download all that after the lost connection restore.
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Written on: 22. 07. 2015 [13:50]
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reetp
John Crisp
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That's again for the response. It is very much appreciated.
"roman" wrote:
"reetp" wrote:
Assuming OpenSCADA is on another machine in another place, I presume that you connect OpenSCADA to the Viola gateway say via VPN, and and OpenSCADA can then read the modbus data ?
Sure if you mean ModBus/TCP, not Serial based ASCII, RTU variants.
Yes that was what I was thinking.
"roman" wrote:
"reetp" wrote:
One other issue that they have been looking at is store and forward caching of data on site. They need to monitor a site but cannot afford to loose data if the router goes down. I can't see any easy(ish) "store and forward" systems for modbus - I did wonder about something like say http://www.openmuc.org on a Raspberry Pi locally.
Then you need start OpenSCADA-server (PLC-variant) on the Raspberry Pi where gather data by ModBus, store that into local archive and next provide this to upper OpenSCADA-station by the self OpenSCADA protocol which allow you to prevent the data lost by download all that after the lost connection restore.
Ah fantastic. I understand now. Brilliant.
Thank you for your patience with a noob :-)
B. Rgds
John
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